Sharing experiences on HEAVY QUAD 12s 32"

Looking good!
Couple of things from looking over the log:

  • Your Z-axis vibrations are quite high, they regularly exceed 30 m/s/s which will cause problems. The clip parameter tells you how many times you hit the limits of the accelerometer (see documentation here). You hit almost 5000 clips during the flight, whereas an acceptable level is <100:

Look to see if there’s anything loose on the frame or if there’s anything flapping around near the flight controller. If everything else looks secure, you may need to use a vibration dampener. I had a similar issue and had to use a vibration dampener to get Z-axis vibrations down significantly.

*Your PIDs are quite low. This is clear in your log as desired and actual pitch/roll have significant deviations:

We have a Gryphon 1400 frame and our PIDs are quite a bit higher, with stabilise P around 6 for both roll and pitch and rate roll/pitch P around 0.21. Our tune is not perfect, still needs a bit of work but it flies okay-ish. We need to put it through another round of autotune to try and get it locked in.

I would recommend doing some more manual tuning and reducing the Z-axis vibration down to an acceptable level before attempting an autotune, otherwise you might get less than satisfactory results.

Hope this helps

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Hi,

Thank you very much, it does help a lot and confirm what we were thinking about our PIDs. (Without really understand where to start)

I’ll Check my setup to identify what’s causing the vibrations.

Cheers

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hello
i have tested my hexacopter 12s 22’’ for the first time and it flies so stable but i have problem in autotune when i finish it i don’t hear beeb that indicating autotune is finished can you guys help me out and maybe look at my logs and see what is wrong with it ?
2020-07-03 06-42-52.tlog (3.8 MB)
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Could you attach the .bin file, the tlog/rlog files are recorded by the ground control station based on the data it received so they aren’t overly useful

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Hello,

We did a test flight today after changing the paylaod and compass priority.

Really good results with perfect weather.

We engaged a PITCH autotune without being able to finish the procedure.

We’ll fly soon but not sure when.

As soon as we have results, i’ll pusblish PIDs.

Thanks guys.

Adrien

@YasinM
12s 22" hexacopter crash!

Hello,

We made an autotune flight today ! Perfect weather, no wind, no extra heat, no rain… Just a lot of fun watching the big bird tuning itself !

New PID :slight_smile:

It flies really well in Stabalize and AltHold, it feels reactive and stable.

However, the Loiter flight mode gives us some worries. No toilet bowl effect, solid position hold but flies less stable. It’s like its stands on a pole on its center point. It is balance really well but unstable, He is wiggling all the time.

We have also a loss of altitude when performing a translation.

Other point, i don’t know how to identify the differents compasses, i use three at the moment but i can’t select the one in the GPS ship b/c i don’t know which one is it.

The goal is to have this compass as the primary to avoid current flow to interfere.

If any advices, please feel free.

Thanks.

Adrien

Today is a big day !

We made the final flight with mission and drops ! Successfull !

We received the build attestation and approval from civil aviation to fly the drone to 1000m with MTOW 25kgs !!!

Next week, we are working and contributing to save endemic birds on our island !

Tired but happy !

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Hello,

Here we are, droping biocide in the natural parc of La reunion.

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The drone is flying good but weather is not with us…

Another problem we are facing is vibration. Unless everything is brand new, there is huge vibrations and i can see clearly the arm Shacking.

Here the screenshots of vibe X,Y and Z from the log :slight_smile:

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Any guess wich parameters could ease those vibes ?

Thanks !

A.

Would you share how you were able to complete the autotune without having the battery drain as before?
I am facing a similar issue where the battery drains out while the autotune on one axis is not completed yet.

Hi,
i had this issue with our smaller drone, an X8, and our old 6s lipos. I managed to tune each axis one by one with the lipos charged at maximum. Some of them were more efficient than other.

Final autotune on 3 axis took less time to complete. That’s how it works for me.

A.

Hi,

Here are two of the TV report made on our first mission.

In french but you can get an idea of what we’ve done.

Still a lot of work to do in order to smooth our flights and secure our protocols but we are really happy with the results.

A big thank you to all of you who answers our questions and help us finding solutions.

Adrien.

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Отличная работа! Молодцы!

Hi,

We have an issue with vibrations on our quad. When flying, we can see the arms moving strongly and its causes vibrations alert on the flight controler. We also have some screws on the frame poping out.
Main screws are tight with threadlocker and don’t move at all.

The thing that ennoy us is that we are unable to identify the source of those vibrations. Props and motors are well balanced.

The perfect example is when i do direct ESC calibration, the signal does not pass through the pixhawk. Whatever the level of thrust, nothing at all moves, no vibrations.

Once the pixhawk reconnected, i get the vibrations you can see on the video.

Any ideas where it can come from ?

Thanks for your help !

Adrien

Looks like the boom is twisting and bending because of how its area moment of inertia of cross-section is decided.
Make sure those arm joints are tightened enough and secured with a good adhesive. I earlier saw a picture where the boom had ripped off the aluminium joint.

And if it’s flame ESC, there are lot of things to take care of. Some have fixed PWM, and some don’t. Hope you have bench tested the motor and have right EXPO. Also check for noise on PWM line with a CRO.

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Yea its mine @ mallikarjun

Same issue exactly we had 1month ago with griphon dynamics frame .

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Sorry if I posted it without your consent. Hope it’s okay. :grinning:

It’s ok no issue :slight_smile:

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