Does it behave differently if you apply the load AFTER power up?
In my case, no. It can happen regardless of when the load is applied.
I havenāt been able to correlate the time-to-failure with any factors, such as hot start vs. cold start. The issue often appears between 5 and 15 minutes after boot/load applied, but it seems quite random; Iāve had it happen immediately after applying the load, or never (left it overnight).
Is it possible this is not a new issue? Here is a thread in the archive over at ardupilot.org, referencing low/no voltage on peripherals using a similar bq2431x component, but i assume back on legacy pixhawk and the user reports a crash, so maybe it was physically damaged:
ā¦ And thereās another current thread over there in the /hardware/pixhawk section with no power:
For what itās worth, we have never experienced this issue before (100+ units). It only started happening recently, and on multiple units, so it seems to be a new issue to us.
The PSM seems to start regulating even on low currents if the reset was not done properly.
A 300mA load is enough on long time periods (15-20mins).
Do you have varying load on the power bus? Using constant resistive load makes this issue quite repetitive and easy to replicate.
Issue found, Tridge is doing a patch for this as we speak
Once he has a firmware, are any of you guys willing to bench test it?
Great, thanks. I will start testing it.
Not yet, but soon I will have the equipment to start making more scientific measurements. Will test old and new firmware with various loads.
PSM is reset properly now on every reboot. The Power enable is pulled high for 107 ms, should be 100 ms? However that should not be a problem?
PSM works now like it is specified to work.
Awesome!
How ironic is it, that making code more efficient can cause an issue like this!
Glad itās better
My experiments:
Attached a load that pulls ~0.8A on the I2C 2 port. Ran trials that consist of powering the Cube Black, waiting ~5 minutes for the current to be limited (or not), then un-power the Cube.
Copter 3.5.7 NuttX: Problem appeared 37/50 trials.
Copter 3.6.2 ChibiOS (and later): 0/30 trials.
Copter 3.6.8 with above PR: 0/10 trials.
It seems that, at least for this specimen, the problem had already been solved by Copter 3.6.x, I guess it gets hidden by different timing on ChibiOS boot, so I canāt really test the PR with this particular Cube. We have blue cubes on hand, Iāll see if I can reproduce it with them.
To me, the mystery is why this suddenly started happening. Weāve flown 3.5.7 since its release and only had this issue appear lately, which suggests a hardware change. It wonāt be an issue once we finish migrating to 3.6 (assuming the PR fixes it), but the sudden and inexplicable onset was a bit jarring. Glad @Morso was able to dive into it deeper than I could.
The change is the bootloader.
Is this new bootloader included in 3.6.9? If not - How does someone install it?